Special Report on the Oklahoma City Bombing

EXCLUSIVE REPORT: NICHOLS TALKS TO ROHRBACHER

29 June 2005: Early Monday morning, Congressman Dana Rohrabacher, accompanied by staff aides, met with convicted Oklahoma City bomber Terry Nichols at the super-maximum security prison in Florence, Colorado where Nichols is serving 161 consecutive life sentences for his role in the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing. Congressman Rohrabacher has publicly vowed to investigate the unanswered questions pertaining to the involvement of others and a link to Middle East terrorists in the heartland attack. To address the issue of a foreign connection, Rohrabacher has heavily referenced the investigative work performed by award-winning journalist Jayna Davis as detailed in her book, The Third Terrorist.

In an exclusive interview with Ms. Davis, Northeast Intelligence Network Director Douglas Hagmann obtained a tape recording of a telephone conversation between Ms. Davis and Congressman Rohrabacher when he contacted her following his meeting with Nichols. On that tape, the congressman outlines what Nichols told him during their meeting. Upon reflecting about Nichols’ answers to his questions concerning a Middle Eastern connection, Congressman Rohrabacher admitted to Ms. Davis:

“Yours is the only game in town that has any evidence.”

During the jailhouse interview, Nichols acknowledged the existence of John Doe #2 but stopped short of identifying the elusive third terrorist, claiming he “did not want to speculate.” However, according to Rohrabacher, Nichols did say “he thought other people [beyond Nichols and Timothy McVeigh] were involved” in the Oklahoma City bombing.

Said Congressman Rohrabacher (excerpted and transcribed from the audiotape):

“Timothy McVeigh on a number of occasions, had talked about Middle Easterners. Terry didn’t say anything that would dispel the, uh, the theory, the central theory of your research, which is, uh these people (witnesses featured in The Third Terrorist) actually saw Tim McVeigh and he was with Arabs, and, uh these are, uh, and these are the people that you tracked down.”

Congressman Rohrabacher recounted his conversation with Nichols and the information developed by Ms. Davis in her book, as well as information that has not been made public. Pertaining to Ms. Davis’ investigative findings of a definitive Middle Eastern connection to the bombing:

“He (Nichols) did not, did not say anything that would undercut that theory… especially he didn’t do anything that would in any way I’d say, uh counter, uh, the uh, witnesses that you have dug up and put on the record…”

The witnesses mentioned by the congressman refer to nearly two dozen men and women who provided sworn affidavits to Ms. Davis and David Schippers, a highly respected Chicago based attorney who served as Chief Investigative Counsel to the House Judiciary Committee for the impeachment trial of former President Clinton. Mr. Schippers also served under U.S. Attorney General Robert Kennedy, prosecuting a number of high profile organized crime figures. After conducting lengthy videotaped interviews with more than a dozen of Ms. Davis’ confidential witnesses in May 2005, Attorney Schippers stated:

“Given the credibility of these witnesses, I could get an indictment with just one day of testimony before a grand jury.”

Also commenting on the statements of the multiple witnesses who have attested to observing Middle Eastern nationals, the majority of whom are former Iraqi soldiers, in the company of McVeigh and at the Murrah building at the time of the bombing is former CIA director James Woolsey. Mr. Woolsey has previously stated that he has found the witness statements accumulated by Davis to be credible, adding further weight to the investigative research conducted by Jayna Davis and Mr. Schippers. Stated Congressman Rohrabacher to Ms. Davis:

“Your evidence remains the heaviest”

Despite the information Nichols gave to the congressman, he told Ms. Davis that he was still “in no hurry” to convene any congressional hearings, but added that he wanted to see more of her evidence.

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Update: Rohrabacher Had Two-Hour Meeting With Nichols

27 June 2005: 10:35 pm EDT: In an exclusive interview this evening with Jayna Davis, author of The Third Terrorist, it was confirmed that Congressman Dana Rohrabacher met with Terry Nichols for two hours today at the Supermax federal prison in Florence, Colorado. Ms. Davis stated that the congressman contacted her by telephone following the interview and admitted that Nichols said nothing to refute the evidence contained in her book outlining a connection to Middle Eastern terrorists to the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing.

At This Hour: Congressman Dana Rohrabacher Meeting with Convicted OKC Bomber Terry Nichols

A Quest for Truth or Another Warren Commission?

by Douglas J. Hagmann, Director

27 June 2005; 11:30 am MT, 1:30 pm EDT: Jayna Davis, author of The Third Terrorist, an exhaustive and detailed investigative accounting of the events and the suspects involved in the April 19, 1995 bombing of the federal building in Oklahoma City, has confirmed that Congressman Dana Rohrabacher is meeting with convicted bomber Terry Nichols at the “Supermax” Prison in Florence, Colorado at this hour. Rohrabacher, who promised to conduct a fact-finding mission and a Congressional Inquiry into the bombing to explore other conspirators, was provided a detailed list of questions to ask Nichols by Ms. Davis during the interview at the congressman’s request.

Earlier this year, hopes to identify the truth behind the events of the Oklahoma City bombing were rekindled with the public promise by the congressman to do whatever it takes to find out the truth behind the worst terrorist attack on U.S. soil to that date. Ms. Davis confirmed that she has been in touch with Congressman Rohrabacher consistently since he announced his plans, and has provided him with questions to be posed not only to Nichols, but to the U.S. Department of Justice and Robert Mueller, Director of the FBI.

The Northeast Intelligence Network has learned, however, that despite a meeting with the FBI Director, many questions were not asked and remained unanswered. Accordingly, research into the background of the congressman has caused significant concern as outlined in the investigative document below.

REPORT: Congressman Rohrabacher: Another Potential to Weep? (PDF FILE)

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FBI Misses More Than Explosives

by Douglas J. Hagmann, Director

2 April 2005-In my career as an investigator, I have been with FBI agents and state police officers when a few search warrants were executed. In each case, the items being sought were quite small – they could almost fit into the palm of your hand – and could easily be hidden in plain sight if you did not know what you were looking for (which is the primary reason I was there). We spent hours at the smallest location and I can assure you, there was nothing that went untouched, or wasn’t picked-up, moved, opened… you get the idea. Everything at each location was rearranged, and every room entered and searched, basements, crawlspaces, and attics included.

The items being sought were not only small, but admittedly insignificant in terms of having any impact whosever on public safety. The point is, however, unless they were buried in some super-secret underground storage bunker behind the building, the items were found – the first time.

As if it was some warped tenth-year anniversary April fools joke played on the American public, the FBI admitted Friday that explosive materials that likely predate the 1995 Oklahoma bombing were found in the crawlspace of a Kansas house rented by Terry Nichols – a home “thoroughly” searched by the FBI in 1995.

For the sake of 171 souls who perished on April 19, 1995, one would think that the FBI and myriad of authorities searching the premises at that time would have checked the crawlspace. On the other hand, “stuff happens.” Mistakes are made by law enforcement officials because they are human and have a tough job. But in the case of Okalahoma City, more than mistakes were made.

Reliable and unimpeachable sources have confided to me that during a telephone conversation between then-President William Clinton and then-Oklahoma Governor Frank Keating on the day of the bombing, Clinton said to Keating: “I sure hope that there was no Middle Eastern involvement.” [in the Murrah bombing]. Clinton’s remark may well have been an effective instructional command rather than a depiction of sentiment. To date, authorities stated that despite a thorough search of the evidence, they have found no Middle Eastern involvement, or at least none that they have admitted. These are the same authorities that missed a cache of explosives in the crawlspace, only to have someone else point them out ten years later. The same has happened with the Middle Eastern connection, although it’s easier to dismiss evidence when you don’t need the bomb squad, under the glare of press lights and police sirens, to bring it to you.

Indeed, “stuff happens,” and mistakes are made, but for the sake of the dead and for the future of this country, now is the time for them to be corrected. The truth has to be exposed without regard to its political ramifications. There are about two-dozen witnesses that need to be heard on Capitol Hill in a commission on the Oklahoma City bombing. Their testimony will provide proof positive of a Middle Eastern connection, and their testimony will resonate louder and longer than the explosion made by a cache of ten year-old explosives found in a Kansas home.

The Oklahoma City Bombing & the Undeniable Connection to Middle Eastern Terrorism

by Douglas J. Hagmann, Director

In the interest of everyone’s time, I am going to be very direct – perhaps to the point of being rudely abrupt. Please look at the blue box with a number of days, hours and minutes counting down to April 19, 2005 that appears on the right hand portion of this page. Now, look at the picture below it. That is the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City after the bomb that exploded almost ten years ago; well, you can count down yourself to the exact anniversary of the blast with the help of our clock.

That blast took 171 lives – 168 were men, women and children, and three were unborn children. I have spent a large portion of the last three years researching, investigating and studying radical Islamic based terrorism and based on my findings, and based on the fruits of one of the best, if not THE best non-law enforcement conducted investigations I have ever read, I have absolutely no doubt that there was a radical Islamic Middle Eastern component deeply involved in that blast. It is unnecessary to outline the reasons on which this conclusion is based, as Jayna Davis, author of The Third Terrorist has done a perfect job in that area. In fact, a flawless job. I was permitted the enviable opportunity to review much of her investigative work and findings. Without hesitation, I would like to see a Congressional Commission, as suggested in the news article reprinted below, conduct an extensive review of her findings – as long as they are committed to finding the truth, wherever it leads.

Based on what I have seen, I have absolutely no doubt whatsoever of a Middle Eastern connection to this bombing. I could be more specific, but Ms. Davis has already done so. Her detractors, if any, and those who have suggested the involvement of a domestic supremacy group, are either deluding themselves or have not seen the clear and convincing evidence.

Ladies and gentlemen, please look at the countdown clock at the right – and the building - again. Those who have the power to convene and conduct a meaningful inquiry – not some dog and pony show – owe it to the 171 innocents who perished on that day to reveal to the American public once and for all the Middle Eastern, radical Islamic connection. The clock is ticking not only to the tenth anniversary of that fateful day, but most assuredly, to another such day of equally and perhaps more tragic consequences – even by those who continue to live and work among us.

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Report: Lawmaker Seeks New OKC Bomb Probe
By: JIM MYERS World Washington Bureau
Publication Date: 03/22/2005; Page A1 of News
Tulsa World (Reprinted with permission)

WASHINGTON — A California lawmaker is expected to use his congressional subcommittee to open another investigation into the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing, even though key Oklahomans have discouraged him from launching such hearings.

Republican Rep. Dana Rohrabacher reportedly wants to look into allegations that others besides Timothy McVeigh, who has been executed for the terrorist attack, and Terry Nichols, who is serving a life sentence for it, were involved and whether federal officials participated in a cover-up.

Rohrabacher already has discussed his plan with former Oklahoma Gov. Frank Keating, U.S. Sen. Jim Inhofe, R-Okla., and U.S. Rep. Ernest Istook, R-Okla.

Both Keating and Istook have discouraged such hearings. Inhofe could not be reached for comment.

Rohrabacher is chairman of the House International Relations Committee’s Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations.

His spokeswoman refused Monday to confirm that the congressman was considering such hearings, although earlier she reportedly had provided that confirmation to KTOK, an Oklahoma City radio station.

Apparently Rohrabacher became interested in the Oklahoma City bombing after hearing about former Oklahoma City television reporter Jayna Davis’ book on the attack.

For years Davis has insisted that Middle Eastern men, including Iraqis, were involved in the bombing.

The bombing at the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building on April 19, 1995, killed 168 people.

Keating, who was governor at the time, said Monday that he recently met with Rohrabacher at the congressman’s request.

“The impression I had before and after my conversation was that he intended to have some forum, whether it was just asking for information or a formal hearing,” Keating said.

He said he discouraged Rohrabacher from moving ahead with his plan.

He sounded especially troubled by one theory Rohrabacher suggested that McVeigh and Nichols were trained to make explosives by the FBI, then somehow got away from their handlers and carried out the plot to bomb the federal building in Oklahoma City.

The theory goes on to include a cover-up by the FBI to hide its involvement..

Keating, a former FBI agent, U.S. attorney and top-ranking official at the U.S. Department of Justice, said he warned Rohrabacher that his panel could come off looking “rather silly” if he bases its hearings on such a theory.

“I told him, ‘With all due respect, I don’t think you know how agents work,’ ” he said.

“These agents had friends who were killed,” he said, referring to the federal government agents and employees who died in the attack.

“It makes absolutely no sense.”

Keating said state and local law enforcement officials would never have gone along with such a cover-up.

“(We) would have scratched the eyes out of anyone who had anything to do with this,” he said, recalling the rage Oklahomans across the state felt over the bombing.

Keating said he reminded Rohrabacher that the statute of limitations never runs out in a murder case and that the Oklahoma City bombing case will remain open.

If anyone has credible information about the involvement of others, he said, that information should be handed over to the proper authorities.

“Some of these theories are not helpful,” Keating said.

Micah Leydorf, Istook’s spokeswoman, confirmed that the congressman talked with Rohrabacher and also discouraged him from moving forward with his investigation.

“It was his impression that the investigation was to be based on material that has already been investigated,” Leydorf said.

Inhofe’s session with Rohrabacher was confirmed by Danny Finnerty, who said the senator was not available for comment.

CREDIT: jim.myers@tulsaworld.com